the masculine role in favor of the feminine, we both got a laugh out of the intensity of the “programming" that we, like everyone else, had been exposed to such that we unconsciously felt urges to roles that we both intellectually had abandoned.

SATURDAY: Took the Hydrofoil boat from Copenhagen to Malmo in Sweden to see a book distributor whose name I'd been given in Stock- holm. These boats go about 45 miles an hour, and on water that is con- siderable. Quite fun. Back again in the afternoon and after a short rest got dressed for the Banquet the Danish branch of FPE-NE was putting on for me. There were about 60 people there with a good representation of wives, several psychologists, sociologists and psychiatrists. Again quite international with 7 nationalities represented. A lovely, free even- ing which I wish more American FPs could enjoy. It was held in a catering restaurant right in the middle of town and most people came already dressed.

SUNDAY: Drove up to Elsinore at the tip of the island of Zealand, which Copenhagen is on. The fancy hotel up there about 2 miles from Hamlets Castle was the scene of the Symposium on “Gender Identity.” This took up Sunday afternoon, all day on Monday, and Tuesday morning. Doctors were there from a number of countries all talking about transexuality and giving reports and observations about "tran- sexuals." I had been left out of the formal program on the excuse that there were too many papers and that a committee had selected them. Personally, I am persuaded that it was because what I would have had to say would have been from a different point of view than the Erick- son Foundation which sponsored the meeting. As it was it finally got just too much for me and I promoted about 8 minutes at the platform in which I told them a) Its pretty unscientific to read a lot of papers about a phenomenon that nobody has satisfactorily characterized. In short, if no one can satisfactorily define what a TS is, how can you write papers about the subject you can't be sure that your clinical material should be included in the title or not, b) that it was not a symposium on Gender Identity nor are the so-called clinics properly so titled be- cause no one really deals with gender but rather with sex alteration on the assumption that this automatically brings gender with it and it doesn't. c) I tried to briefly outline to them the differences between sex and gender and how the non-understanding of these differences was what led many people to think of themselves as TSs and for many doc- tors to go along with that diagnosis, and d) that the Symposium was not an open forum as represented since several of those who wanted to read

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